SSBTi  Podcast

說話人1： Welcome to our deep dive into all things LCA and carbon footprinting. You've been looking into Asia's role in this, especially with their new  LCA database. It's really a fascinating case study. We often talk about data being like the new oil, and in the realm of environmental impact, it feels truer than ever, right?

 

歡迎您深入瞭解LCA和碳足跡的所有內容。 你一直在研究亞洲在這方面的作用，尤其是他們新的生命週期評價資料庫。 這確實是一個引人入勝的案例研究。 我們經常談論數據就像新的石油，在環境影響領域，它比以往任何時候都更真實，對吧？

 

Imagine a future where all of the carbon footprint data of products that are manufactured in Asia are primarily sourced from their database. That's a huge potential shift in power dynamics. Absolutely. And it's a shift that's rooted in the evolution of life cycle assessment itself. Yeah, which is a concept that's been around for a while, but has really gained traction in recent years. Yeah.And Speaking of which, I found it really interesting that the term Life Cycle Assessment was coined back in 1990.

 

想像一下，在亞洲製造的產品的所有碳足跡數據主要來自其資料庫的未來。 這是權力動態的巨大潛在轉變。 絕對地。 這一轉變根植於生命周期評估本身的演變。 是的，這是一個已經存在了一段時間的概念，但在最近幾年才真正獲得了吸引力。 是啊。 說到這裡，我發現生命週期評估這個詞是在1990年創造的，這真的很有趣。

 

說話人2：Oh wow. It feels like such a hot topic. Now that, it's surprising to realize that it's been brewing for over 3 decades. It has been around for a while, the Society of Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry. They laid the groundwork with their first LCA guidelines in 1993. So think of it as like creating the first recipe for truly assessing the environmental impact.

 

哦，哇。 感覺像是一個熱門話題。 現在，令人驚訝的是，它已經醞釀了30多年。 它已經存在了一段時間，環境毒理學和化學學會。 他們在1993年為第一個生命周期評價指南奠定了基礎。 因此，可以把它看作是創造了第一個真正評估環境影響的方法。

 

說話人1：Of a product from its creation to. So early 90s were just starting to gather the ingredients for this environmental impact recipe. Recisely And as with any good recipe, it's evolved overtime. We saw the emergence of ISO standards for LCA, which brought more rigor and comparability to the process. Then get environmental Product declarations, or EPD, which are essentially standardized reports that detail the environmental impacts of a Product just like a nutrition label, but for the Environment. Exactly. OK EPDs provide that. And help consumers make more informed choices and around the same time, the world started focusing more intently on climate change, which brought carbon footprinting, or PCF. so PCF is like a specialized subset of LCA specifically focused on greenhouse gas emissions.

 

一個產品從它的創造起源追溯。 所以90年代初才剛剛開始收集這個環境影響配方的成分。 相反，就像任何好的食譜一樣，它是隨著時間的推移而演變的。 我們看到了生命周期評價ISO標準的出現，這為該過程帶來了更嚴格和可比性。 然後獲取環境產品聲明，或EPD，這本質上是一份標準化的報告，詳細說明環境影響。 產品就像一個營養標籤，但對於環境，完全可以由EPD提供，並幫助消費者做出更明智的選擇。大約在同一時間，世界開始更專注於氣候變化，這帶來了碳足跡，或PCF(產品碳足跡)。所以PCF就像是LCA的一個專門的子集，專門關注溫室氣體排放。

 

說話人2：That's right， it zooms in on that climate change aspect of a product life cycle. More recently, the EU’s Product Environmental Footprint Initiative, YEAH, or PEF, right, has aimed to raise the bar even further, pushing for greater transparency and rigor and how we assess the environmental impacts of products. And this is. All happening as global awareness of climate change and resource scarcity is increasing. Seems like these tools like LCA and PCF are becoming more and more crucial for navigating this new landscape. Absolutely. And it's not just about awareness, it's about. About having reliable data to inform decisions, right? And this is where those four comprehensive LCA databases that we talked about come into play. Yes, only four databases globally that aim to be independently complete. Tracing the entire supply chain back to raw material extraction kind of blew my mind when I Learned That. yeah. And it really underscores the significance of LCA initiative, right? If they can build a robust and transparent database, it could have a major impact on. How companies, especially those relying on Chinese manufacturing, calculate their carbon footprints. And it's not just a government initiative, it's a collaborative effort involving universities and students. They even have this competition, the 7th annual Full Life Cycle Carbon Neutrality Competition, where students create LCA models and contribute to the database. Wow, Yeah, it's pretty cool. That's awesome. It speaks to their commitment to building their own LCA infrastructure rather than relying. Fully on existing databases. Exactly. And it raises some interesting questions about data security and sovereignty. It does, right? Like who controls this data? Yeah. And how it's used could have major implications beyond just environmental impact. It could. We're talking economic and geopolitical considerations here. Absolutely. The data landscape is changing, yeah. And it's crucial to understand the forces at play. It is. So I think it would be helpful maybe to take a closer look at  LCA, OK. And kinda how.

 

沒錯，它放大了產品生命周期的氣候變化方面。 最近，歐盟（EU）的產品環境足跡計劃（PEF）旨在進一步提高標準，推動更大的透明度和嚴謹性，以及我們如何評估產品的環境影響。 所有這一切都發生在全球對氣候變化和資源稀缺的認識日益提高的時候。 看起來像LCA和PCF這樣的工具對於駕馭這一新局面變得越來越重要。 當然。 這不僅僅是關於意識，而是關於有可靠的數據來為決策提供資訊，對吧？ 這就是我們談到的四個全面的生命周期評價資料庫發揮作用的地方。 是的，全球只有四個資料庫專注在能獨立完成追溯到上游原料。 當我把整個供應鏈追溯到原材料開採時，我有點震驚。 這確實突顯了LCA生命周期評價倡議的重要性，對吧？ 如果他們能夠建立一個強大而透明的資料庫，它可能會產生重大影響，對公司，尤其是那些依賴亞洲製造的公司，如何計算他們的碳足跡。 這不僅僅是政府的倡議，也是大學和學生共同努力的結果。 他們甚至舉辦了第七屆全生命週期碳中和競賽，學生們可以創建生命周期評價模型，並為資料庫做出貢獻。 是的，很酷。 太棒了。 這表明他們致力於建設自己的生命周期評價基礎設施，而不是依賴。 完全基於現有資料庫去延伸。 就是這樣。 它提出了一些關於數據安全和主權的有趣問題。 是的，對吧？ 比如誰控制這些數據？ 是啊。 它的使用方式可能會產生重大影響，而不僅僅是對環境的影響。 它可以。 我們在這裡談論的是經濟和地緣政治因素。 絕對地。 是的，數據格局正在發生變化。 瞭解起作用的力量是至關重要的。 它是。 所以我認為仔細研究生命周期評價可能會有更好的説明。

 

說話人1：Yeah. So when I was researching this, I came across this term LCI data sets. OK. And I'll admit I'm a little fuzzy on what exactly that. Means so LCI stands for Life Cycle Inventory, and these data sets are really the backbone of any LCA. They're essentially massive detailed records of the environmental inputs and outputs. For a specific product or process. OK. So instead of just having like a single emission factor, yeah. Or say, electricity generation, right, You're looking at the entire life cycle of that electricity exactly, from the mining of the raw materials to the operation of the power plant and even the disposal of waste products. Precisely. It's about understanding the full picture, not just a.Snapshot OK, that makes sense, but with so much data involved, how can you be sure it's all accurate? I mean, there's a lot of room for.

 

是啊。 所以當我在研究這個的時候，我偶然發現了這個術語LCI數據集。 好的。 我承認我有點不清楚那到底是什麼。 意味著LCI代表生命週期清單，這些數據集實際上是任何LCA的支柱。 它們本質上是對環境輸入和輸出的大量詳細記錄。 對於特定的產品或過程。 好的。 所以不是只有一個單一的排放因素，是的。 或者說，發電，對吧，你正在研究電力的整個生命週期，從原材料的開採到發電廠的運營，甚至是廢品的處理。 沒錯。 這是關於瞭解全域，而不僅僅是一個快照：好的，這是有道理的，但是涉及到這麼多數據，你怎麼能確定它是準確的呢？ 我的意思是，有很大的空間。

 

說話人2：Error， right？ You've hit on a crucial point. Yeah, data quality is absolutely paramount in LCA if you're working with bad data. Your results will be unreliable. It's like building a house on a shaky foundation. Right. So how do we make sure that data foundation is solid, right? Tell me more about this uncertainty analysis you mentioned earlier. Yeah. So uncertainty analysis is a key tool in LCA that helps us evaluate the reliability of our results and identify areas where we need more or better data. OK. And it goes beyond simply providing a range of possible values, right for the carbon footprint. Yeah, it delves into the quality of the data.

 

錯誤，對嗎？ 你說到點子上了。 是的，如果你處理的是壞數據，你的結果是不可靠的，那麼數據品質在生命周期評價中絕對是最重要的。 這就像在搖搖欲墜的地基上蓋房子。 對的。 那麼我們如何確保數據基礎是堅實的，對吧？ 告訴我更多關於你之前提到的不確定性分析。 是啊。 因此，不確定性分析是生命周期評價中的一個關鍵工具，它幫助我們評估結果的可靠性，並確定我們需要更多或更好數據的領域。 好的。 它不僅僅是簡單地提供一系列可能的值給碳足跡。 是的，它深入研究了數據的品質。

 

說話人1：So it's not just about having a number， right？ It's about understanding how confident we can be in that number exactly. OK. What are some of the factors considered in this analysis? So  LCA, for instance, considers the source of the data, the sample size, the technological relevance, and several other factors. It aims to provide a more nuanced understanding of the data's reliability.

 

所以這不僅僅是一個數字的問題，對吧？ 這是關於理解我們對這個數位到底有多大的信心。 好的。 在此分析中考慮了哪些因素？ 因此，例如，LCA生命周期評價考慮了數據來源、樣本量、技術相關性和其他幾個因素。 它旨在提供對數據可靠性的更細緻的理解。

 

So it's all about transparency and traceability and making sure you can follow the data trail back to its source. And understand its limitations. Kind of like being able to check the ingredients list on a product before you buy. It exactly, yeah. And this transparency is essential for building trust and credibility, especially when it comes to something as complex and impactful. As carbon footprinting. This is also fascinating, and it feels like we're really starting to grasp the complexity of this world. But I'm also wondering about the practical implications. How does all of this actually impact businesses and consumers? Well, that's a great question, yeah. And it leads us into the heart of why this deep dive is so important.OK.In the next part, we'll explore the real world implications of  LCA and how it might change the game for companies operating in global supply chains. I'm ready to dive deeper. Let's get into it. OK. So we've talked about this shift in the data landscape and how Asia's  LCA fits into it, but I think it's worth pausing here to consider what this all means for businesses, especially those sourcing products from Asia.It's a critical question. Imagine your company that relies heavily on Chinese manufacturing. In the past you might have used data from existing LCA databases to calculate your products carbon footprint. Yeah, but now with. Developing its own comprehensive database, right? The game is changing. So you're saying companies might need to rethink their entire approach to carbon footprinting? Potentially, yes, especially if LCA becomes the de facto standard for products originating there, right? This raises all sorts of questions about data compatibility, transparency, and even potential biases. Like how well? Every database has its own methodology and assumptions built in, right? There could be subtle differences in how.  LCA calculates emissions compared to other databases. Yeah. And these differences, however small, could have a big impact on a company's reported carbon footprint. So a product that appears to have a low carbon footprint based on one database might have a higher footprint when calculated using  LCA. That could create a lot of confusion and even mistrust in the market. Absolutely, and it highlights the need for clear communication and collaboration between Asia and the international community. If  LCA is gonna be a globally recognized tool, it needs to be aligned with international standards and best practices. So it's not just about building a database, it's about building trust and ensuring that everyone is playing by the same rules. Precisely. And this brings us back to the issue of data sovereignty. Asia's development of  LCA could be seen as a way to assert greater control over its own environmental data and how it's used in global. Trade. So it's not just an environmental tool, it's also a strategic.

 

因此，這一切都是關於透明度和可追溯性，並確保您可以追蹤數據追溯到其來源。 並瞭解其局限性。 有點像在購買之前能夠檢查產品的配料表。 確實如此。 這種透明度對於建立信任和信譽至關重要，尤其是在涉及如此複雜和有影響力的事情時。 作為碳足跡。 這也很有趣，感覺我們真的開始理解這個世界的複雜性了。 但我也在想它的實際意義。 所有這些實際上是如何影響企業和消費者的？ 嗯，這個問題問得很好，是的。 這讓我們深入了解了為什麼這種深度潛水如此重要。 好的。 在下一部分中，我們將探討生命周期評價在現實世界中的影響，以及它可能如何改變在全球供應鏈中運營的公司的遊戲規則。 我準備潛得更深。 讓我們進入它。 好的。 因此，我們已經討論了數據領域的這種轉變，以及LCA生命周期評價如何融入其中，但我認為值得在這裡停下來考慮一下這一切對企業意味著什麼，特別是那些從亞洲採購產品的企業。 這是一個關鍵問題。 想像一下你的公司嚴重依賴亞洲製造。 過去，您可能會使用現有生命週期評價資料庫中的數據來計算產品的碳足跡。 是的，但現在需要開發自己的綜合資料庫，對嗎？ 遊戲正在改變。 所以你是說公司可能需要重新考慮他們對碳足跡的整個方法？ 有可能，是的，特別是如果LCA生命周期評價成為源自亞洲的產品的事實標準，對吧？ 這引發了關於數據相容性、透明度甚至潛在偏見的各種問題。 比如有多好？ 每個資料庫都有自己的方法和假設，對吧？ 在方式上可能存在細微的差異。 與其他資料庫相比，LCA計算排放量。 是 啊。 這些差異，無論多麼微小，都可能對公司報告的碳足跡產生重大影響。 因此，當使用生命週期評價計算時，基於一個資料庫似乎具有低碳足跡的產品可能具有更高的足跡。 這可能會在市場上造成很多混亂，甚至不信任。 當然，這突顯了亞洲與國際社會之間需要明確的溝通與合作。 如果生命周期評價要成為全球公認的工具，它需要與國際標準和最佳實踐保持一致。 所以這不僅僅是建立一個資料庫，而是建立信任，確保每個人都按照同樣的規則行事。 完全正確。 這讓我們回到了數據主權的問題上。 LCA生命周期評價的發展，可以被看作是對其自身環境數據及其在全球範圍內的使用方式進行更大控制的一種方式。 因此，它不僅是一種環保工具，也是一種戰略工具。

 

說話人2：In many ways， yes. It's about positioning Asia as a leader in the realm of sustainable manufacturing and potentially even influencing the direction of global carbon accounting like. They're saying we're not just the factory of the world anymore, we're also setting the standards. That's a good way to put it, yeah. And it's forcing companies and policymakers around the world to pay attention and adapt to this new. Reality So what can companies do to prepare for the shift? First and foremost, they need to stay informed about the development of  LCA and how it might impact their specific industry and supply chains. Engage with experts, participate in discussions, and be proactive in seeking out information.

 

在很多方面，是的。 這是關於定位為可持續製造領域的領導者，甚至可能影響全球碳核算的方向。 他們說我們不再只是世界工廠，我們也在制定標準。 這是一個很好的表達方式，是的。 這迫使世界各地的公司和政策制定者關注並適應這一新情況。 那麼，企業可以做些什麼來為這一轉變做好準備呢？ 首先也是最重要的是，他們需要隨時了解生命周期評價的發展，以及它可能會如何影響他們的特定行業和供應鏈。 與專家接觸，參與討論，並積極主動地尋找資訊。

 

說話人1：So knowledge is power in this case. The more companies understand about  LCA, the better equipped they'll be to navigate this changing landscape. Exactly, and they need to prioritize data transparency and quality within their own operations. If you're gonna be relying on data from , LCA, or any other database, you need to have confidence in your own data. As well, it's about ensuring that your house is in order before you start comparing it to. Others precisely and company should also be thinking about how they can leverage this shift towards greater. To their advantage. OK. Consumers are increasingly demanding sustainable products. Having a clear and verifiable carbon footprint could become a key differentiator in the marketplace. So it's not just about compliance, it's about opportunity. Absolutely, this is a chance for companies to demonstrate their commitment to sustainability, build trust with consumers and even gaining competitive edge. But it all starts with understanding the data and how it's being used. OK, so we've covered a.Lot of ground here from the evolution. LCA to the intricacies of  LCA and its potential impact on businesses we have. It's clear that this is a complex and evolving landscape. But before we wrap up, I wanna bring it back to the individual listener. Why should they care about all of this? How does this impact their everyday lives?

 

在這種情況下，知識就是力量。 公司對生命周期評價的瞭解越多，他們就越有能力駕馭這一不斷變化的環境。 沒錯，他們需要在自己的運營中優先考慮數據透明度和品質。 如果您要依賴來自LCA或任何其他資料庫的數據，您需要對自己的數據有信心。 同樣，在你開始比較之前，要確保你的房子是有序的。 準確地說，其他人和公司也應該考慮如何利用這一轉變來實現更大的轉變。 對他們有利。 好的。 消費者對可持續產品的要求越來越高。 擁有清晰且可驗證的碳足跡可能成為市場上的一個關鍵差異化因素。 因此，這不僅關係到法規遵從性，還關係到機會。 當然，這是公司展示其可持續發展承諾、與消費者建立信任甚至獲得競爭優勢的機會。 但這一切都始於理解數據及其使用方式。 好的，我們已經討論了a。 這裡有很多來自進化的基礎。 深入探討了LCA的複雜性及其對我們業務的潛在影響。 很明顯，這是一個複雜而不斷發展的景觀。 但在我們結束之前，我想把它帶回給每個聽眾。 他們為什麼要關心這一切？ 這對他們的日常生活有何影響？

 

說話人2：That's a crucial question， and it's one we should all be asking ourselves at the end of the day. All of this data. All of these tools and initiatives are ultimately about addressing the global challenge of climate change, and that's something that affects every single one of us. So even if you're not ACEO or a policymaker, you're still a stakeholder in this global conversation. Exactly. As consumers, we have the power to influence the market through our choices by demanding sustainable products, supporting companies that are transparent about their environmental impact right and advocating for policies that promote a low carbon future. We can all play a part in driving change. It's about recognizing that we're all interconnected and our choices, both big and small, have ripple effects throughout the system. Precisely. And by understanding the data behind these choices, yeah, we can make more informed decisions and contribute to a more sustainable future. So this isn't just about numbers on the spreadsheet, it's about our collective responsibility. For the planet. This deep back has certainly given me a lot to think about. It has. But I have a feeling we're not done yet. There's still so much to explore, so many questions to answer. You're. Right, And that's the beauty of it. This is an ongoing conversation, a journey of discovery. And the more we learn, the better equipped will be to navigate the complexities of our interconnected world. I'm excited to continue this journey, but for now, we'll have to leave our listeners with a few final thoughts. Any parting words of wisdom I.

 

這是一個至關重要的問題，也是我們在一天結束時都應該問自己的問題。 所有這些數據。 所有這些工具和舉措最終都是為了應對氣候變化的全球挑戰，這影響著我們每個人。 因此，即使您不是CEO或政策制定者，您仍然是這一全球對話的利益相關者。 就是這樣。 作為消費者，我們有能力通過我們的選擇來影響市場，要求可持續產品，支援對其環境影響透明的公司，並宣導促進低碳未來的政策。 我們都可以在推動變革中發揮作用。 這是關於認識到我們都是相互聯繫的，我們的選擇，無論大小，都會在整個系統中產生連鎖反應。 完全正確。 通過瞭解這些選擇背後的數據，是的，我們可以做出更明智的決定，為更可持續的未來做出貢獻。 因此，這不僅僅是關於電子表格上的數位，而是關於我們的集體責任。 為了這個星球。 這個很深的背部確實給了我很多思考。 它有。 但我有一種感覺，我們還沒有結束。 還有太多的東西需要探索，太多的問題需要回答。 你是。 對，這就是它的美妙之處。 這是一次持續的對話，一次探索之旅。 我們學得越多，就越有能力駕馭我們相互聯繫的世界的複雜性。 我很高興能繼續這個旅程，但現在，我們必須給我們的聽眾留下一些最後的想法。 任何智慧的臨別贈言都是。

 

Would encourage everyone to stay curious, keep asking questions, and don't be afraid to dive deep into the data. The more we understand. About the interconnectedness of our world, the better choices we can make, both individually and collectively. Excellent advice and for our listeners who want to learn more will be sure to link to all the resources we discussed, including information about  LCA, the Chinese Carbon Footprint competition, and those four key LCA databases. Be.Sure to check them out and let us know what you find. This is an evolving field and there's always more. To learn, that's what makes it so exciting. Thanks for joining us on this deep dive into the world of LCA and carbon. Printing. Until next time, keep exploring, keep asking questions, and keep diving deep. You mentioned something really interesting back in Part 1 that I kinda wanna circle back to. When we're talking about the EU‘S Product Environmental Footprint Initiative, or PEF, how does that tie into everything we've been discussing about LCA, and this global shift in carbon footprint data? That's a great connection to make. Yeah. So the PEF, while focused on Europe, right, actually exemplifies a broader trend, OK, towards standardized. And rigorous environmental impact assessments. It aims to go beyond just carbon footprinting and look at a wider range of environmental impacts throughout a product's life cycle. So it's like taking a more holistic view, considering things like water usage, resource depletion, and even toxicity. Exactly. OK. And what's interesting is that both PEF and with LCA are pushing for greater transparency in the data. They both recognize that in order for these assessments to be meaningful, right? They need to be based on reliable and verifiable information. So it's not just about having data, it's about having good data, data that you can trust, data that's been vetted, data that's transparently sourced. Precisely, yeah. And I think this emphasis on data quality is gonna become even more critical as carbon footprinting in LCA become more mainstream. You know, we're already seeing growing consumer demand for sustainable products, right? And companies are under increasing pressure to demonstrate.

 

我鼓勵大家保持好奇心，不斷提出問題，不要害怕深入研究數據。 我們理解得越多。 關於我們世界的相互聯繫，我們可以做出更好的選擇，無論是個人還是集體。 很好的建議，對於想要瞭解更多資訊的聽眾來說，一定要連結到我們討論的所有資源，包括有關生命周期評價、亞洲碳足跡競賽和這四個關鍵生命週期評價資料庫的資訊。 貝。 一定要去看看，讓我們知道你發現了什麼。 這是一個不斷發展的領域，總是有更多的。 去學習，這就是它如此令人興奮的原因。 感謝您加入我們，深入瞭解生命周期評價和碳的世界。 印刷。 直到下一次，繼續探索，繼續提問，繼續深入。 你在第1部分提到了一件非常有趣的事情，我有點想回過頭來。 當我們談論EU產品環境足跡倡議（PEF）時，這與我們一直在討論的生命周期評價和碳足跡數據的全球變化有什麼關係？ 這是一個很好的聯繫。 是啊。 所以PEF，雖然專注於歐洲，但實際上體現了一個更廣泛的趨勢，好吧，走向標準化。 以及嚴格的環境影響評估。 它的目標不僅僅是碳足跡，而是著眼於整個產品生命週期中更廣泛的環境影響。 因此，這就像採取更全面的觀點，考慮水的使用，資源消耗，甚至毒性等問題。 就是這樣。 好的。 有趣的是，PEF和LCA都在推動數據的更大透明度。 他們都認識到，為了使這些評估有意義，對嗎？ 它們需要基於可靠和可核查的資訊。 因此，這不僅僅是擁有數據的問題，而是擁有好的數據，你可以信任的數據，經過審查的數據，來源透明的數據。 準確地說，是的。 我認為，隨著生命周期評價中的碳足跡變得更加主流，對數據品質的重視將變得更加重要。 你知道，我們已經看到消費者對可持續產品的需求不斷增長，對吧？ 公司也面臨著越來越大的壓力。

 

說話人1：Environmental responsibility And with initiatives like PEF and  LCA emerging， it seems like the tools and frameworks for measuring and reporting environmental impact are becoming more sophisticated. They are and this creating a really interesting dynamic. On the one hand, you have this push for greater transparency and standardization, right? But on the other hand, you have these geopolitical considerations with Asia's  LCA potentially becoming a major player in the global data landscape.

 

環境責任以及PEF和生命周期評價（ LCA）等倡議的出現，似乎衡量和報告環境影響的工具和框架正變得越來越複雜。 這創造了一個非常有趣的動態。 一方面，你推動了更大的透明度和標準化，對嗎？ 但另一方面，你有這些地緣政治的考慮，亞洲的生命周期評價有可能成為全球數據領域的主要參與者。

 

So it's a bit of a balancing act. It is trying to promote global cooperation, right, while also navigating these national interests and potential data sovereignty issues. Exactly. And this is where I think the EU Simplified Data Quality Rating or DQR method becomes really relevant. It offers a streamlined approach to data quality assessment that could potentially bridge some of these. Gaps. I remember you mentioning DQR earlier, but I have to admit I didn't quite grasp its significance. Can you elaborate on that a bit?

 

所以這有點平衡。 它正試圖促進全球合作，對吧，同時也在應對這些國家利益和潛在的數據主權問題。 就是這樣。 這就是我認為EU簡化數據品質評級或DQR方法變得真正相關的地方。 它提供了一種簡化的數據質量評估方法，有可能彌補其中的一些問題。 差距。 我記得你之前提到過DQR，但我必須承認我沒有完全理解它的意義。 你能詳細說明一下嗎？

 

說話人2：So the traditional approach to uncertainty analysis in LCA can be quite complex and resource intensive. The DQR method on the other hand, aims to simplify the process OK while still ensuring a reasonable level of confidence in the data. So it's like. Finding a happy medium between rigor and practicality. Making sure that the data is robust enough to be meaningful, but also accessible enough to be widely adopted. Exactly. Yeah. And this is crucial because if we wanna see. Widespread adoption of carbon footprinting and LCA, right? We need tools and methods that are both reliable and user friendly. It's like we need to make it easier for companies to bake that environmental impact cake, so to speak, without sacrificing the quality of the ingredients. Method is a good example of how we can move in that direction. By simplifying data quality assessment, we can lower the barrier to entry for companies that might otherwise be intimidated by the complexity of traditional LCA. And by promoting greater transparency in standardization, we can create a more level playing field where consumers can trust the information they're being given and make informed choices based on that information. Exactly. It's about empowering both businesses and consumers to make more. Decisions and that ultimately benefits everyone. This deep dive. Has been incredibly insightful. We've covered so much ground from the historical evolution of LCA to the emergence of  LCA and the implications for global trade and data sovereignty. Yeah.It has been a really interesting conversation. We even explored the nuances of data quality assessment and the E us innovative DQR method. Yeah, for sure it's been a fascinating journey and I hope our listeners have found it valuable as well. But before we wrap up, I.Leave our listeners with one final thought. We've talked a lot about data, but it's important to remember that behind all the numbers are real people, real communities, and a real planet that's facing some very real challenges. That's a crucial point. It's easy to get lost in the technical details, but ultimately this is about something much bigger than ourselves. It's about using data to make a positive impact on the. World. So let's all commit to using this knowledge wisely, to advocating for change. And to building a more.future for generations to come i couldn't have said it better myself and for our listeners who wanna continue this exploration we'll be sure to provide links to all the resources we discussed including  LCA the chinese carbon footprint competition the four key LCA databases and information on the EU PEF and DQR initiatives there's a wealth of information out there and we encourage everyone to dive in and learn more thanks for joining us on this deep dive until next time keep exploring keep asking questions and keep diving

 

因此，生命周期評價中不確定性分析的傳統方法可能非常複雜且資源密集。 另一方面，DQR方法旨在簡化過程，同時仍然確保數據的合理置信水準。 所以就像。 在嚴謹性和實用性之間找到一個合適的平衡點。 確保數據足夠強大，有意義，但也足夠可訪問，以被廣泛採用。 就是這樣。 是啊。 這是至關重要的，因為如果我們想看到。 廣泛採用碳足跡和生命周期評價，對嗎？ 我們需要既可靠又使用者友好的工具和方法。 這就像我們需要讓公司更容易烤出對環境有影響的蛋糕，可以這麼說，而不犧牲原料的品質。 方法是我們如何朝著這個方向前進的一個很好的例子。 通過簡化數據質量評估，我們可以降低那些可能被傳統生命周期評價的複雜性嚇倒的公司的進入門檻。 通過提高標準化的透明度，我們可以創造一個更公平的競爭環境，讓消費者可以信任他們所獲得的資訊，並根據這些資訊做出明智的選擇。 就是這樣。 這是為了讓企業和消費者都能賺更多的錢。 決策，最終使每個人受益。 這次深潛。 非常有見地。 我們已經涵蓋了從LCA的歷史演變到LCA的出現以及對全球貿易和數據主權的影響。 是 啊。 這是一次非常有趣的談話。 我們甚至探索了數據質量評估的細微差別和創新的DQR方法。 是的，當然，這是一次引人入勝的旅程，我希望我們的聽眾也發現它很有價值。 但在我們結束之前，我。 讓我們的聽眾留下最後一個想法。 我們已經談了很多關於數據的話題，但重要的是要記住，在所有數字的背後都是真實的人、真實的社區和一個面臨著一些非常真實挑戰的真實星球。 這是一個關鍵點。 很容易迷失在技術細節中，但最終這是一件比我們自己更大的事情。 這是關於使用數據對產生積極影響。 世界。 所以，讓我們都致力於明智地利用這些知識，倡導變革。 並建立一個更多。 未來幾代人的未來我自己說得再好不過了，對於那些想要繼續探索的聽眾，我們一定會提供我們討論的所有資源的連結，包括生命周期評價、亞洲碳足跡競賽、四個關鍵的生命週期評價資料庫以及關於EU PEF和DQR計劃的資訊。 那裡有豐富的信息，我們鼓勵每個人都深入瞭解並瞭解更多。 感謝您加入我們的討論。 潛水直到下一次，繼續探索，繼續問問題，繼續潛水。（#完）